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Carnotherium by Midiaou Carnotherium by Midiaou
The domesticated dwarf giraffes gave rise to 2 extremely popular and successful branches: the Kryotheres and the Carnotheres. After many members of Carnivora died out, there was a huge niche. These were filled in with many groups and one of them being the Carnotheres. They filled in the roles of so many predators and diversified for so long that they could be the most successful group of predatory mammals ever. Here is the common species.
The size of a horse, these carnivores can run at up to 40 miles per hour for 2 miles. The upper front of their body is unusually stocky, allowing them to bring down prey 3 times their own size. Yet the lower half is very lean and resembles a greyhound build. Their heads are large and muscular. Their "canines" are actually bone protruding from the actual skull and the canines on the bottom are are modified incisors.
Carnotheres, of this particular species are solitary and give birth to 3 or 4 calfs that resemble wooly dog pups. At a young age they learn to swim quite well. By adulthood, prey in the water is an option.
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Pristichampsus Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Professional General Artist
I would find it hard to justify carnivorous giraffe descendants. Specialised species do not have as much potential to radiate into new niches. Even if the Carnivora died out completely, I can think of many animals more suitable to evolve into carnivores. Things like hedgehogs and shrews could rapidly evolve larger size and tend towards carnivory, much as insectivorous eutherians in the KT did, and lets not even get started on such obvious choices as birds and rodents. If you want carnivorous Artiodactyls that aren't pigs, duiker antelopes, muntjacs, or chevrotains would be a more reasonable choice. I could only see this species happening if by some chance a planet had ONLY giraffes left (either by extinction or by seeding terraformed planets). 

As a veteran of speculative zoology, I really don't understand this current trend of shoehorning unlikely animals into strange shapes and niches. One of the best things about speculative zoology is keeping it feasibly grounded in real species and laws of evolution, when this is not done, it stops being speculative zoology and becomes fantasy art.

I am sorry for perhaps blasting you with my opinion, but it's not just you. It's an odd trend I have noticed in the past few years, that I don't like all that much. As a veteran of speculative projects since 2003, I roll my eyes when I see snake-shaped legless birds, frogs that play the niche of elephant-like megaherbivores, birds with lips, etc. If you are going to have these extreme creatures, you need equally ingenious and extreme ways of justifying their existence. Many of these extreme creatures only make sense given the idea of perhaps a planet seeded with very few founding species, either that or in some cases, evolution in the league of over 100 million years.
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I xan see where you are coming from, but I have explained this (guilty) outside of DA on multiple occasions. Prior to the extinction event, humans were basically messing around with "hyper breeding" (a form of changing the appearance of an animal that is sped up). After an extremely popular pop culture experience (film, rather) including a tiny talking fantasy creature that wanted to be a giraffe, people wanted a real life version. Particularly kids. After giraffes (since there populations had elevated) were hyper bred, they were spread around the world as pets. A trait for omnivory was also instituted, as people wanted something that wasn't so easily distratced by a new green snack here and there. They basically ended up becoming more popular than dogs due to how exotic they looked and behaved. After humans along with many other groups went extinct, they along with many others were left to colonize hige gaps. Carnivory (if I had to point a finger) most likely evolved in the south american Eaks (the small pet creatures), due to the meat rich diets of many of the cultures previously found there. As they spread out of south america they encountered many other groups, like lagomorphs and rodents that had taken the place of ungulates, etc. They flourished on the new prey items and continued to spread out into the globe.

To point out your birds and rodents point. Birds are amongst the dominant predators in the southern hemisphere. Creatures like Seriema descendants and birds of prey in Africa, not to mention a few parrots in australia. Rodents took up the role of ungulates. Only a small few members of carnivora remain in the northern hemisphere. The mustelids have taken up the role of bears and in the case of africa, near cheetah like descendents of mongooses.

This is an old piece, a shame you come across it now. But nonetheless, I understand your concerns. I try to think these sorts of creatures out. All of my spec evo projects are related in some way. I like to leave clues here and there in the different ones, so that readers can make their own connections. Like in the few paintings I have done (outside of da) regarding the anthropocene, in city scenes I tend to drop in an Eak or two around the place, sometimes obscure, others, blatantly visible. I make sure to give references as to what's going on, wjen and where. It isn't so random. Of course I'll have to do some updating. Regardless, there's no need to fret.
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Pristichampsus Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2016  Professional General Artist
So giraffes were genetically modified to be more like dogs or pigs, and then domesticated. Fair enough I suppose, but how does hyper-breeding work? It might be easier just to say "genetic modification". You sound like you have the reasons all figured out, the idea that new kinds of domestic animal will come about is not a bad idea at all, as people are breeding the hell out of pythons and things to get color variants, and this sometimes gives other genetic side effects. There were plants years ago to domesticate hippos for meat. Some lizards have been bred to have no scales, so maybe a future lizard might develop this trait, and simply have thick or even glandular skin. I do see your point.

As for domestic giraffes, you may want to put in something to do with Jewish food, because Giraffes are kosher, as opposed to pigs and rabbits. Also their bone marrow can be used as a hallucinogen. There you are, 2 reasons to domesticate giraffes before even considering demand from pop culture. Maybe you can use those as well.
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Yes, but "hyper breeding" is the term that was coined ;)

Hyper breeding is basically wjat we did to dogs but in a much more controlled and sped up manner. Genetically alter the animal's age to be shorter than average, thus making their sexual maturity come much earlier, make offspring smaller (in some cases), but more numerous per parent. And basically breed in the individualswi th the desirable traits. Eventually the gene that regulates the age is altered back to "normal" if that can even be said anymore.

And Eaks believe it or not actually have variants created simply for meat XD

And you'd be surprised by the amounts of crazy shit that is found in the kryocene. In the later anthropocene, Mesozoic park brings back a miriad of different mesozoic species back (via time travel accessibility). A few survived the asteroid (again) and there are now tiny little non avian dinosaurs and certain mesozoic fish descendants running around this new ice age world. That would only be one of the few examples. Humans had really changed their world and it shows. Martian scientists come back to find pythons in texas and mexico, old world monkeys in the new world (due to pet trade), etc.
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JDB1992 Featured By Owner May 28, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
a meat-eating giraffe sounds cool.
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John-AM Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting concept! reminds me of andrewsarchus. A niche filled by a creature from an unexpected group.:-)
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yap, glad you like it!
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CrossDevice Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2015
Dudes got a nice smile.

Cool concept here
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad you like it;)
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CrossDevice Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015
No problem!
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grisador Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2015
Amazing ! One of the best speculative idea ever ! :o
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
ThnX!
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grisador Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015
Y'r welcome :D
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caspion161 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2015
cool a carnivorous giraffe 
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Not enough of em 
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caspion161 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015
it's such a good idea they also make me think about the ancient mesonychids
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Part of the inspiration XD
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caspion161 Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015
it would be nice with a background  and  it looks just so nice! 
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I plan on having more actual pieces of this guy, so watch out;)
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caspion161 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2015
I'll be watching but seriously i don't now how you do it but your stuff is just amazing from the dinosaurs to the future creatures like this one
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Practice makes perfect;)


#SoClicheButTrue
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HUBLERDON Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Carnivorous giraffes? Cool!
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Cheers!
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LordWobbler Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2015  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
what goes on with the specialized ruminant digestive system in a carnivore?
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Well inthis animal, it became shorter and smaller. Since originally designed for plants and it is ony about 40 million years, this creature only feeds on the softer parts of animals and leaves bone, although they can and do crack it for marrow
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Viergacht Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2015  Professional General Artist
What a fascinating creature design!
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Why thanks:D
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ZoPteryx Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
At a young age they learn to swim quite well. By adulthood, prey in the water is an option.
Ah, I'm sensing the possibility of an interesting evolutionary path ahead of them. :D
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
I am not saying a word😏
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Dragonthunders Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist Artist
I'm still not sure if giraffes might be candidates for use as a new variety of predators. I'm glad you mentioned that Carnotheres evolve from an omnivorous species, although, despite artiodactyls are versatile enough to evolve varied diets (eg swine), giraffes are too specialized in their herbivorous diets, at least, to develop omnivores habits.
But, anyway, I'm a little concerned by the domesticated dwarf giraffes, are a some kind of species genetically created by humans or something else?
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yup yiu got it. Through genetic engineering and something called hyper breeding, the animalsdeveloped into small omnivorous creatures.
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Syphonodon Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2015
Maybe you could draw some of these domesticated dwarf giraffes?
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 28, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Actually I am working on the design. I simply have too much on my platter especially from school. I want to create a busy future city intersection with people in the foreground. With it
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Khialat Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Very interesting creatures!
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you
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I absolutely love them :3
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Glad you do!
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AnonymousLlama428 Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Interesting! I never imagined giraffes could fall into carnivory.
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
In the far future possibly
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PeteriDish Featured By Owner Edited Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
similar thing has happenned in the past, actually. mesonychids. those were wolf-like ungulates related to whale ancestors. if carnivores died out, then ungulates could potentially evolve to fill in those niches, although I think wild boar would be more up to the task in the northern hemisphere, and baboons and other monkeys would be more likely candidates in the south, as they already have fangs and are omnivorous, so a transition to a more meat-oriented diet would not be as complicated as with animals as specialised for a different sort of feeding as giraffes are. other ungulates, however, eat meat or carrion occasionally as well, namely cows and deer.
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
That's actually where I got inspiration and reference from when I first created these guys a while ago
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PeteriDish Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
i thought that was the case, i like the concept! :)
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Yaaay! Cheers. And thank you:D
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Syphonodon Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015
So were the ancestors of the kryotheres and carnotheres genetically engineered to be able to eat anything? Because that could explain how carnotherium exists.
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Midiaou Featured By Owner Sep 27, 2015  Hobbyist General Artist
Omnivores that is. Their ancestors were omnivorous 
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